End of life (Where is the 2.0.7 download?)

Last edited by Technocrat on Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:28 am; edited 1 time in total

It's been about a year and a 1/2 since NE 2.0.7 has been release. It is about time that we start to talk about the fact that NE 2.0.7 is reaching the end of life.

Though I feel that there is no security issues with 2.0.7, it has a number of bugs and minor issues. All of which will not be addressed by me. There is also the fact that NukeSentinel has also not been updated. However Sentinel has not added any real improvements since then. There are also a ton of new features, mods, and modules out there as well. It's not go to continue to allow this version to hold back the community. So it's time to start thinking about moving people to better and more up to date projects.

As such the 2.0.7 download has been removed from the downloads. If you still need to download it for what ever reason you can still access it from the sourceforge:
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=183204
If anyone else has a link they want to share I will add it.

What about support?
This site will continue to be open and provide support for the foreseeable future. We have some wonderful people that have been helping answer your questions and I believe they will continue to do so. I will also continue to try and answer questions when I can.

What do we do?
Well this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. I have been saying this for some time. There are plenty of other options out there.

First 2.1.0 by the NE German team.

Also there is Evolution-Extreme which is maturing into a nice project.

There are other projects out there. If anyone would like me to add them or list them please let me know. I just picked the two that I have familiarity with.

What about the future of this site?
If someone wanted to take over (or purchase) this project and/or site at some point I would entertain the idea. I am also considering turning the site over to the Evo-German team. Nothing is set right now and we will continue this site for awhile. But at some point we will bring this chapter to a close.

Thank you everyone

Hi Technocrat,

kind thanks for your Statement, which seems to be necessary at this time.

Evo 2.1.0 had need a long time to be developed to a stable version. But now we are in the near of a Final Release.
Even, Nuke-Sentinel wasn't improved any longer, we have made many changes to it to fit base securities and to make it running in environements with "Global Registered Variables" turned off.

Evo 2.1.0 is fully XHTML 1.1 compatible - even too, all E-Notice and E-Warnings are eleminated.

With Evo 2.1.0 and the new developed Administration Interface we show the future, the project is going -> PlugIn capability is coming.

On the Roadmap we see Your Account going and an own User Administration which will come with Version 2.2.0.

For the Future all Versions will be numbered:
X.Y.Z
X = Mainversion with heavily changed behaviour. So Version 3.x.x will have a completly rewritten Output behavior.
Y = Version with Database changes
Z = Versions without Database changes

In Version 2.2.0 we will concentrate us to:
1. PHP5 and PHP 6 (not longer downward compatible to PHP4) with MySQL newest version
2. Own Useradministration with API's for Modules and AddOns
3. With change to PHP5 we will integrate a Intrusion Detection System
4. Integration of several Forum Systems (like phpBBV3, VBulletin and others)
5. Update WYSIWYG to Releases > PHP5
6. Fully CSS driven - away from Tables hardcoded inside Evo Kernel and Modules

In later Versions we will concentrate us to:
1. Use more integrated features of the database (Views, Relationships, Stored Procedures) to reduce coding and speed up multiple table access.
2. Adding API's for access to Kernel Functions from Modules
3. Automated Updates

You see, we will continue developing Evo as long as we have support from users and developers, which have fun to go into a future with this project.

All other things will be discussed between Technocrat and my person ....

Greetings to all

Reo

I know that I personally have kinda fizzled out for about the last year and half, but before I left I kinda had a feeling that the end of nuke itself was slowly creeping up. I think the community as a whole took a major hit when the mass rip-fest went on a few years back, and that made a lot of developers and designers move on to something else. Personally, I hate to see the nuke community slowly die off, because I loved making themes for it. But, it looks like there is no avoiding it. I am really glad I was a part of this place, and was able to leave my mark (designs/themes) here.

I have recently came back to designing, and I guess I will pick up where I left off, and still stick with vBulletin for now. I want to wish all of you guys the best of luck in everything. Nuke has taught me a lot, and I personally want to thank all of you for putting together a good project for me to design for.

Xipher
www.xipherdesigns.com

Nuke Evolution

This is not an end,but as the name suggests it's Evolution.

It is time for NE to evolve and i would like to express a big THANK YOU to Tech and the dev team for an excellent cms which i enjoy being part of.

As Tech mentioned there are already 2 new ( advanced versions) of NE that are heading in slightly different directions but they are both excellent projects.I would recomend you look at both before making your decission.( DO NOT Rush into a site upgrade).Also i would like to say that along with the support offered here there will still be continued support for 207 Themes from myself @ Nuke-Evolutionthemes.com

I would like to add that there is still Phpbb-Evolution that is being developed,although slowly and i would like to mention that anyone with good php/xhtml and DB knowledge that WOULD be able to assist with the project,please drop by http://www.phpbb-evolution.com/ and let us know how you think you could help.(No Time wasters Wink

)

no offense to the german team, they have done a great job with 2.10, but their site is german and 80% of the world speaks english, I feel it would be a bit tough to offer support if their english isnt good, it would only frustrate users. even if I hit the english language flag it's still german....lol... the german team is very talented, but english should be #1 Wink

Language is my main concern. My second concern is that 2.10 is "2.10" and not really evo at all. With the updates they have planned for 2.20 it won't even be close evo in any way. It is simply a new cms and not a nuke evolution branch anymore. Very good work, very impressive system, just not nuke evolution.

One Question: Do you still think, that if Evo would be continued here, there weren't any basic changes made ?
As you can see from Version 1 to 2, there were used new techniques (Ajax), new concepts for WYSIWYG, HTMLPurifier, SwiftMail a.s.o.

The mostly made changes in Versions above 2.0, the user never sees (Security, Enhancements).
We cannot stand still, while the world turns on. The "NEW" Evo System coming from PHPNuke was a great change against PHPNuke.
PHPNuke isn't developed any longer - why should we stay there ?

Greetings
Reo

And you just made my point. You shouldn't stay in one place and you didn't stay there. You moved forward and have almost created a new cms. My post wasn't a bad thing. I think you guys did a great job on your cms. My point is that there are still users who want and use the Nuke Evolution Software and there are a lot that will still want to continue using it. The people that want something different now have another choice with 2.10. It is good to have choices. However, you said changes made users would never really see, but your cms is completely different. The themes are now css and laid out different, a lot of new changes, new functions, controls, admin panel, downloads, forum features and of course security and upgraded editors. It is a nice cms by all means, My point is that its not Nuke Evolution. And yes, I do think this site, support and developement for this cms should continue.

Here is an example.

Some, if not all the features you talked about adding to 2.20 are already available in other systems such as e107, SMF (with the portal), word-press, joomla, drupal and a few others. they use api's, they are modular, css driven, clean secure and constantly developed and they already exist and are being used by thousands of people. Even with all those more advanced and more current cms's out there, you cannot deny there are still thousands of users with Nuke Evolution. The reason is because they simply like it better. Some have upgraded, tried them all and a lot have come back. So many people wanted phpbb3 yet a ton of users that wanted to switch did and are once again using Nuke Evolution.

So many people forget where they got started and how they got to where they are now. I am not one of those people. Moving forward with new technology is a good thing. But I don't forget that there are still people that don't want to move forward yet. My thoughts are to support it until it dies. That does not mean kill it because there is something better or there are more choices because there already are better systems and a ton of choices. And with that said, you have to think about the fact that "better" to some people is not "better" to others. Different websites and what they are used for may require something evo doesn't offer and then again all those so called better cms's might not have things evo has which in that users eye would mean that evo is better.

I guess my main point is that evo should be continued as it is with future enhancements and upgrades and should not be killed forcing users to find another way to manage their sites. They should have a choice and if there are people willing to continue it then great for everyone.

I see your point.

So the question is: How many users still uses Evo <2> 4.000 Users without any problems and with only using the installer.
The old theme was available as 2.1.0 Theme.

If you remember, the development team is very small - so developing the new phpEvolution AND going forward with 2.1.0 AND ongoing with 2.0.7 aren't things which could be made at the same time.
Even too, you have to see, that the support for used AddOns in Evo 2.0.7 (HTMLPurifier, WYSIWYG-Editors, SwiftMail, NukeSentinel, phpBBV2) are canceled also for the most modules used.
Webservers are running PHP5 > 5.1 and going to PHP5.3. Some - in Evo 2.0.7 - used functions are still depreceated in PHP > 5.1 and not available in PHP5.3.

So, maintaining 2.0.7 could be going on for a while ... but have to be closed latest 2.2.0 is available.

What problem is going on with all other versions is, that no modules or addons are available running with the changed Kernel functionality. But they will follow up after we are sure, no Kernel changes have to be made any more.

We are close to release the Final Version. As our bugtracker only shows some minor bugs. If we see, that the actual Developer Edition (available on Sourceforge.net) is running stable in different environments, the Final Release could be made public and we can concentrate us to update:

1. Evo German with multilingual support
2. Reopen Evo-Mods
3. Make Evo more public

Hopefully we aren't going the way, PHPNuke was going in the past - to diversicate into different products. This will split up the users and let them lose their way.

What I can see is, that nuke-evolution.com will stay as english spoken forum - updated to version 2.1.0 and chiroptera and my person added as admins, moderators should be moderators cross over also testers.
All official "Nuke-Evo" Websites uses our Theme "Mundo" whereby users can switch to chromo.
By the way ... there should be chromo-gold for our websites available for the new version ... is there any information about it ??

What do you think about ??

Greetings
Reo

Hi,

kind thanks for your answer.
My thought was, that Chromo Gold was exclusively developed for Evo Version 2.1.0 - all official Evo sites should use this theme - not public.
This was discussed in the internal forum.

But - you are the owner - and you have made your decision.

Greetings
Reo

This has truly saddened me, I remember what an amazing community this use to be.

I wish much luck to the 2.1.0 German Team.

Please keep patient !!!!!

All Developers are discussing at the moment, which way to go !!!!

We will find a way, where all users on both sides of the Ocean can be satiesfied !!

The Discussion at the moment is done by:

Xtreme
Nuke-Evolution
Evo-German

We will come back soon to let you know, which decission was made.

Greetings
Reo

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